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Sir Nicholas Harrington's wife
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Douglas Richardson
2010-07-22 04:58:06 UTC
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Dear Merilyn ~

Below is an account of Sir Nicholas Harington (died 1404) and his
wives, Isabel English and Joan (or Jennet) Venables. This should help
straighten out your pedigree.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

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1. ETHELRED II, King of England.

2. ELGIVA OF ENGLAND, married UCHTRED, Earl of Northumberland.

3. EALDGYTH OF NORTHUMBERLAND, married MALDRED FITZ CRINAN.

4. GOSPATRIC I, Earl of Northumberland, lst Earl of Dunbar, married
_____.

5. GRAVELDA (or GURWELDA, GIMILDA) OF DUNBAR, married ORM FITZ KETEL,
of Kelton and Salter, co. Cumberland.

6. GOSPATRIC FITZ ORM, of Workington, Kelton, and Salter, co.
Cumberland, married EGELINE (or ENGELINE) ENGAINE.

7. THOMAS FITZ GOSPATRIC, of Seaton (in Camerton), co. Cumberland,
married GRACE _____.

8. ALINE FITZ THOMAS, married WILLIAM DE FURNESS (or FLEMING), of
Aldingham (in Furness), Lancashire.

9. MICHAEL DE FURNESS (or FLEMING), of Aldingham (in Furness),
Lancashire, married AGATHA FITZ HENRY.

10. WILLIAM DE FURNESS, Knt., of Aldingham (in Furness), Lancashire,
married JOAN _____.

11. ALINE DE FURNESS, married RICHARD DE CANSFIELD, Knt., of
Cantsfield (in Tunstall), Lancashire.

12. AGNES DE CANSFIELD, married ROBERT DE HAVERINGTON (or HARINGTON),
Knt., of Harrington, co. Cumberland.

13. JOHN DE HAVERINGTON (or HARINGTON), Knt., 1st Lord Harington,
married JOAN _____.

14. JOHN DE HAVERINGTON (or HARINGTON), Knt., of Farleton (in
Melling), Lancashire, married KATHERINE BANASTRE.

15. NICHOLAS HARINGTON (or HAVERINGTON), Knt., Knight of the Shire for
Lancashire, Sheriff of Lancashire, master forester of Quernmore, co.
Lancaster, third son, born about 1344 (proved his age in 1365). He
was heir in 1361 to his older brother, Thomas Haverington, by which he
inherited the manors of Farleton (in Melling), Bolton-le-Moors, Heath
Charnock, Aighton, etc., co. Lancaster and Farleton in Kendale, co.
Westmorland. He married (lst) before September 1369 ISABEL ENGLISH,
daughter and heiress of William English, Knt., of Appleby, Little
Strickland, and Hasket, Westmorland, Knight of the Shire for
Westmoreland, by Margaret, daughter of Richard le Brun. She was born
about 1345. They had three sons, William, Knt., James, Knt., and
Nicholas, and five daughters, Isabel (first), Margaret (wife of
Richard Huddleston, Knt.), Agnes (wife of Richard Sherburne), Mary
(wife of John Redman), and Isabel (second). Isabel was co-heiress c.
1369 to her uncle, Robert le Brun, by which she inherited the manor of
Drumburgh (in Bowness), Bowness, Cardurnock, etc., and a one-third
share in the manors of Bothel (in Torpenhow), Beaumont, and
Brunskaith, co. Cumberland. In 1369 he went to Ireland in the retinue
of William de Windsor, Knt., where he fought for the next two years.
In 1373 he and William Curwen, knt. (husband of his wife’s aunt, Ellen
le Brun) caused major devastation on the estates at Beaumont, co.
Cumberland of Ralph de Dacre, Lord Dacre. In 1375 he was implicated
in the murder of Lord Dacre, for which action he was excommunicated by
the Archbishop of York. He married (2nd) before August 1397 (date of
fine) JOAN (or JENNET) VENABLES, widow successively of Thomas de
Lathom, Knt. (died 1382), of Lathom, Knowsley, and Huyton, co.
Lancaster, and Roger Fazakerley, and daughter of Hugh Venables, of
Kinderton, Cheshire. They had no issue. SIR NICHOLAS HARINGTON) died
shortly before 8 February 1404.
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2010-07-22 17:23:36 UTC
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hsone
2010-07-23 02:51:11 UTC
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I regret that I do not have access to the information at the present,
but I believe that a fairly recent article by MichaelAnne Guido places
Gospatrick FitzOrm d. 1179 and his brothers as children of his father
Orm FitzKetel's other wife Ibrea de Trevers of Burgh-by-Sands,
Cumberland, daughter of Robert de Trevers.

Ibrea was also wife of Ranulf de Engaine.

Please check out Foundations I:6 (July 2006), pp. 395-403.

HS
Douglas Richardson
2010-07-23 07:03:03 UTC
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On Jul 22, 8:51 pm, hsone <***@gmail.com> wrote:
< I regret that I do not have access to the information at the
present,
< but I believe that a fairly recent article by MichaelAnne Guido
places
< Gospatrick FitzOrm d. 1179 and his brothers as children of his
father
< Orm FitzKetel's other wife Ibrea de Trevers of Burgh-by-Sands,
< Cumberland, daughter of Robert de Trevers.
<
< Ibrea was also wife of Ranulf de Engaine.
< Please check out Foundations I:6 (July 2006), pp. 395-403.
<
< HS

The article by Ms. Guido has some problems. I do not recommend it.
Ibrea de Trevers was the wife of Ranulph de Engaine, but not Orm Fitz
Ketel. Orm Fitz Ketel's wife was Gravelda of Dunbar as I stated in my
post. This matter has been discussed at length in the past here on
the newsgroup. The discussion is available in the newsgroup archives.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

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